May 26 2007

Is this poker or chicken?

Published by at 11:16 pm under Poker

I’m sacking the man
cause the man is a thief
I’m kicking the plan
before the plan kicks me
I’m gonna get me
Get me out of here
–Jet

I played a bit of what started out a bit strange. There were 13 hands before we saw a flop. I don’t ever recall that ever happening with me. It went a little something like this.

AtlFalcon28: posts small blind $0.25
MaAnthony: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [4♦ K♦]
Supwithbates: raises $1.50 to $2
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates collected $1.25 from pot

MaAnthony: posts small blind $0.25
Supwithbates: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [6♣ 5♥]
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: raises $1.50 to $2
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
AtlFalcon28 collected $1.25 from pot

Supwithbates: posts small blind $0.25
Thomas_Key: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [3♣ J♥]
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key collected $0.50 from pot
Thomas_Key: doesn’t show hand

Thomas_Key: posts small blind $0.25
Klaraku: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [5♠ 6♠]
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: raises $1.50 to $2
Supwithbates: calls $2
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: raises $6 to $8
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
Klaraku collected $6.25 from pot
Klaraku: doesn’t show hand

I really thought about calling here, but 2 things stopped me. One, we hadn’t seen a flop and I wasn’t sure how any one would play postflop. Two, we hadn’t seen a flop which means everyone was playing pretty conservatively. At a minimum, Klaraku had AK and likely had a good pair. Three, everyone seemed to be playing conservatively so I couldn’t expect supwithbates calling to give me better odds. He took plenty of time to call my raise and instafolded after I folded.

Klaraku: posts small blind $0.25
matematyk: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [K♦ T♦]
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: raises $1.50 to $2
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
MaAnthony collected $1.25 from pot
MaAnthony: doesn’t show hand

matematyk: posts small blind $0.25
AtlFalcon28: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [A♣ Q♣]
MaAnthony: raises $1.50 to $2
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony collected $1.25 from pot
MaAnthony: doesn’t show hand

I thought someone would get sick of my raises and play with me, but no one did. This reaffirmed my thought that I shouldn’t need to call in situations with my 56s because I was getting little resistance to my preflop raises.

AtlFalcon28: posts small blind $0.25
MaAnthony: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [K♥ 7♥]
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: raises $1.50 to $2
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: folds
Thomas_Key collected $1.25 from pot
Thomas_Key: doesn’t show hand

MaAnthony: posts small blind $0.25
Supwithbates: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [5♦ K♠]
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
matematyk: raises $1.50 to $2
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
matematyk collected $1.25 from pot
matematyk: doesn’t show hand

Supwithbates: posts small blind $0.25
Thomas_Key: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [7♦ A♠]
Klaraku: raises $1.50 to $2
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku collected $1.25 from pot

I thought about calling here, but did I really want to see what would happen post flop with a crappy ace even if I was in position? Maybe. I chose to wait.

Thomas_Key: posts small blind $0.25
Klaraku: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [3♦ 8♠]
matematyk: folds
AtlFalcon28: raises $0.50 to $1
MaAnthony: folds
matematyk leaves the table
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
AtlFalcon28 collected $1.25 from pot

Klaraku: posts small blind $0.25
AtlFalcon28: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [J♣ 7♥]
MaAnthony: folds
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: raises $1.50 to $2
Klaraku: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
Thomas_Key collected $1.25 from pot
Thomas_Key: doesn’t show hand

AtlFalcon28: posts small blind $0.25
MaAnthony: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [T♣ T♦]
Supwithbates: folds
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
AtlFalcon28: calls $0.25
MaAnthony: raises $1.50 to $2
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony collected $1 from pot
MaAnthony: doesn’t show hand

I thought this would be a decent opportunity to see a flop, but no.

MaAnthony: posts small blind $0.25
Supwithbates: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [Q♠ J♠]
Thomas_Key: folds
Klaraku: folds
AtlFalcon28: folds
MaAnthony: raises $1.50 to $2
Supwithbates: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [3♠ 7♦ 7♠]
MaAnthony: bets $3
Supwithbates: folds
MaAnthony collected $3.80 from pot
MaAnthony: doesn’t show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4 | Rake $0.20
Board [3♠ 7♦ 7♠]
Seat 2: AtlFalcon28 (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 3: MaAnthony (small blind) collected ($3.80)
Seat 4: Supwithbates (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Thomas_Key folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 6: Klaraku folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

MaAnthony said, “holy crap, was that a flop?”

It was a strange series of hands and I hadn’t ever been in a situation like this at a ring game. Tournament, yes, but not a ring game. What do you do when you want to get information on people, but aren’t really getting an opportunity? Do you call with a marginal hand in position? Suited connectors and hope to hit?

I chose to be content playing a preflop game since no one seemed to be giving me much resistance and I was picking up my fair share of blinds. I ended up $.30 over these 13 hands but if I would have played a bit more aggressive in position, I might have done better.

A few hands later, some of the tighter players left and a more aggressive bunch moved in which totally changed the dynamic of the table to something I was more accustomed to. I just thought it was an odd series I wanted to share.

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4 responses so far

4 Responses to “Is this poker or chicken?”

  1. Scotton 29 May 2007 at 4:20 pm

    Players who play nitty preflop generally play nitty postflop too. You can make decent scratch calling in position of these players and semibluff raising/floating a lot. As soon as they adjust to that become a set-farming, broadway pair reraising nit.

  2. Anthonyon 29 May 2007 at 7:31 pm

    At Full Tilt, I didn’t see much of this cause they all thought they were the next Phil Ivey. After I got some stats on them, I think it all just ended up being that they were TAGs that weren’t getting hands for that stretch. Most of them ended up being around 20/15 players with a high aggression factor. These were just the first 13 hands so wasn’t sure what to make of it.

  3. Supwithbateson 17 Oct 2007 at 8:33 pm

    I’m calling top 60% of my range there in BvB and raising a decent %. You shouldn’t be surprised at seeing a flop there

  4. Anthonyon 17 Oct 2007 at 9:34 pm

    It wasn’t the situation that I was surprised at seeing a flop with, it was the fact that we saw one at all considering it was more than 2 orbits at the table without seeing one. I truly wasn’t surprised, but it was just an odd streak of hands.

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