May 31 2007

Because Charts are Cool

Published by at 11:17 pm under Poker

Pick me up and put me on the ground
Set me up and spin me all around

Even if the data is inconsequential. Ok, so I haven’t had as much time as I would like to play this month. In fact, there were only about 3 days that I have played at all. So sums up to 423 hands for a profit of ::drumroll:: $12.98.

May '07 chart

My first session had a horrible run where I just couldn’t drag down a pot. I had a run of almost 100 hands where it seemed I couldn’t win a pot. That happens sometimes though. Oh well. I’m just glad that most of the stars players seem to have the poker aptitude of your average chicken with their heads cut off. The don’t seem to do anything for any rhyme or reason. Even with my bad skid there at the beginning of the month, I’m beating the game there for a winrate of 16.5 ptbb/100. Again, over a small sample size, but the play is much different here than at FTP and I think I can take advantage of that.

If I keep this up, my next review from any substantial amount of hands should look pretty good. I might even hit my 10ptbb/100 mark I was hoping to hit. I do have to try and finish up a bonus I’ve had lingering there that will be expiring at the end of June, so you should expect me to be somewhat of a regular at the tables from now until then.

So I’ll leave it with one of my last hands I played for the month. Not tremendously interesting, but does offer a question of how to play these some situations.

Hand 1:
POKERSTARS GAME #10206163332: HOLD’EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) – 2007/05/31 – 21:00:45 (ET)
Table ‘Sibylla V’ 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: xoohmymoshxo ($48.20 in chips)
Seat 2: donnyaceman ($45.15 in chips)
Seat 3: x cool guy ($32.95 in chips)
Seat 4: blt_page ($72.70 in chips)
Seat 5: dingonater ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: MaAnthony ($50.20 in chips)
MaAnthony: posts small blind $0.25
xoohmymoshxo: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaAnthony [7♠ 8♠]
donnyaceman: folds
x cool guy: folds
blt_page: folds
dingonater: raises $1.50 to $2
MaAnthony: calls $1.75
xoohmymoshxo: folds
*** FLOP *** [8♦ Q♣ 3♥]
MaAnthony: checks
dingonater: bets $3.50
MaAnthony: calls $3.50
*** TURN *** [8♦ Q♣ 3♥] [K♣]
MaAnthony: checks
dingonater: checks
*** RIVER *** [8♦ Q♣ 3♥ K♣] [2♠]
MaAnthony: checks

I’m not even gonna taint it with results. Here is the situation. I’m out of position with a decent drawing hand and I hit the flop. I could bet out and get raised or called by a hand that beats me and chase off the continuation bet from a hand that likely missed. Instead I decided to check/call it. The bad part of this type of play is that is gives me little information and then another over card hits the turn. I need to check it hear I think since a lead out would look super suspicious. He checked behind so I have to figure he missed and here is where the question comes in. Do I lead out on the river risking getting raised by a big hand that slow played the turn in hopes to chase out Jacks or Tens or do I do yet another check/call hoping that a totally whiffed hand takes another stab at it? As you can see, I went the check/call route, but is that play have any more merit than leading out? I tend to do both fairly evenly, I think, and I’m not sure there is a big difference between the ev of either play, but I would like to know what other people think.


5 responses so far

5 Responses to “Because Charts are Cool”

  1. Kennyon 02 Jun 2007 at 2:14 pm

    I think you should avoid that hand preflop OOP in a non-multiway pot. As you can see you have tough decisions on every street of this hand. It’s just not worth it.

    As played, you may want to consider a decent check-raise on the flop and shutting down if called.

  2. Anthonyon 03 Jun 2007 at 10:08 am

    Against some of the aggressive players who bet most any hand in position preflop and lack a complete imagination of postflop play, I don’t think it’s that bad to call with that hand preflop. I thought about raising the flop to see where I was, but he was one with little postflop imagination. If he didn’t have anything, he was gonna check the turn. This also motivated my decision to check/call the river in hopes he would take a bluff stab at the pot there.

    Against these players at these stakes, I don’t mind my preflop/flop play, I was just concerned on how to get the most value with least risk on the river. As the hand turned out, a flop check/raise gets me the same result.

    Thanks for the comments, Kenny.

  3. Scotton 05 Jun 2007 at 1:24 pm

    What Kenny said. This is a leak that took me a long time to plug, too… because I just didn’t want to fold these hands OOP. I’d make every excuse in the book too, like “I have huge implied odds” and “I can outplay the guy” but I’d rather open with 72 from the cutoff now than call with JT from the blinds. Most of the time, your opponent isn’t going to have anything to pay you off with anyway.

    I don’t know what worse hand would call you on the river if you led. If you lead it’s to turn your hand into a bluff. He might fold QJ/QT but at these stakes I doubt even that.

  4. Erwin Blonkon 08 Jun 2007 at 6:07 am

    Charts are f-ing cool, period. Great post.

  5. Anthonyon 08 Jun 2007 at 8:42 am

    I haven’t had time to do it yet, but I will be revisiting this taking into consideration Kenny’s and Scott’s comments. I think I have some data that would support my play here, but we will see.

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